Spyware Warriors and the Digital UnderGround: Part 1 & Part 2

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Spyware Warriors and the Digital UnderGround: Part 1& 2 Podcast Segments

Podcast conducted and moderated by Jeff Molander of Thoughtshapers.com

Guests:
Wayne Porter, Sr. Dir. Greynet Networks
Chris Boyd (PaperGhost), Dir. Malware Research
Facetime Communications

Wayne Porter and Chris Boyd (aka PaperGhost) get paid to spend their days infiltrating rings of real life cyber criminals, all the while risking they'll get caught by the thieves themselves. How must it feel to gather evidence on such bottom-feeders and then turn it over to the proper authorities- according to them- it feels great.

Spyware Warriors and the Digital UnderGround: Part 1


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00:01 - Introduction
02:38 - What does Facetime do and for whom?
04:09 - What is a botnet network? (Boyd)
05:20 - What are hackers and e-criminals motivations? (Boyd)
06:11 - Things changing for the worse; paradigm shift (Porter)
07:55 - The story of RinCe, tipster on major bust (Boyd, Porter)
10:20 - Anatomy of a good tipster; motivations (Boyd)
11:44 - Changing vectors & new dangerous hacker tactics (Porter)
12:54 - Instant Messaging no longer safe (Porter)
13:24 - Botnet criminal motivations (Boyd)
13:44 - New perspectives (Molander)
14:34 - Attack complexity increasing, vectors changing (Porter)
16:24 - Dark Economy: Organized crime moving online (Porter)
16:59 - Cloak & Dagger: How to penetrate a botnet (Boyd)
19:03 - Gathering intelligence from "the underbelly" (Porter)
22:54 - Fallout from adware, spyware & Web crime (Porter)
23:34 - Warning to e-commerce executives (Porter)

Spyware Warriors and the Digital UnderGround: Part 2

Guests:
Wayne Porter, Sr. Dir. Greynet Networks
Chris Boyd (PaperGhost), Dir. Malware Research
Facetime Communications

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Molander: In part two, I begin to discuss how and why major name advertisers (and advertising networks they work with) unknowingly get caught funding criminal activity.

Porter goes on to predict that the realm of click fraud is bound to get a lot more ugly as massive, criminal-operated networks of "zombie" PC's ("botnets") turn their guns in a new direction. Detecting them may, as it turns out, not be easy for Google, Yahoo Search, or others

Spyware Warriors and the Digital UnderGround: Part 2

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0:00 - Introduction
1:02 - How and why would major advertisers fund criminals?
2:04 - The Problem: brokers of ad brokers of ad brokers
2:34 - The connection between performance advertising and botnets, fraud
4:58 - Risk levels of cost per sale vs. cost per click vs. impression/CPM
6:28 - How brands are affected
7:16 - A new form of cost per click fraud?
9:19 - Small but widely distributed click fraud botnets may prove highly problematic
11:30 - Enterprise risks to botnets
11:48 - The potential for a new form of click fraud
13:44 - Web marketing, becoming less efficient and dangerous for brands
14:52 - "Botnets can be used for pay per click fraud" (Porter)
15:10 - Learn from the Past: AllAdvantage "Get Paid to Sleep" (Porter)
17:05 - New SpywareGuide.com blog
19:15 - Funny story: "Mr. Bean" movies among bad guys
21:31 - Closing remarks

So whatever happened to these botnet operators?...stay tuned...something ground-shaking did happen after the first articles and podcasts went to press...

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From The: This is To Insane to Make-Up Department from ReveNews - Wayne Porter: Greynets, Malware, Adware & Spyware Research- E-commerce on May 9, 2006 7:06 AM

Chris Boyd and I have been talking about botnets lately and how they can impact e-commerce. Fraudulent clicks, drive-by downloads, dDOS attacks, and all the "good stuff" that makes you wan't to cringe. Who are these people? Where do they exist? What do... Read More

Botnets On Adsense from ReveNews - Wayne Porter: Greynets, Malware, Adware & Spyware Research- E-commerce on May 18, 2006 12:49 PM

This comes from the "We Knew It Would Happen Department" it was really only a matter of when and not how. Jensense picked up on the confirmed sighting by SANS of a botnet being used to defraud Adsense. The SANS institute has reported on a Botnet that i... Read More

Chris Boyd and I talked about the possability of this happening back in March during our Podcast with Jeff Molander. In this instance I will quote myself: Porter says, "Once you?ve compromised a PC you own it... it?s yours you... Read More

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